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Jason McCoy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.15 04:43:00 -
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If you had the choice to jump into either ship for the first time. Which would it be?
Either one will be used for high sec lvl 4 mission running.
Which one would you recommend to get into. |

Jason McCoy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.15 04:47:00 -
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welp the varg will be shooting 4 guns compared to the machs 7, so mach will eat ammo for breakfast.
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Jason McCoy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.15 04:59:00 -
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im def not starting out in lvl 4 missioning.
I also have all the supports for both ships. Skills are min bs 5 and gallente bs 4
awu 5 blah blah blah blah
in other words I will be able to fit them both quite competitively large t2 guns and even some deadspace mods here and there.
im comming off a maelstrom, so im just wondering where should I dump the isk into. So far im more inclined towards the mach and some corp buddies have said to get the mach. |

Jason McCoy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.15 05:22:00 -
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Goose why the rolleyes, LOL I dont know what you are jabbing about in your "fun fact" I never said I MWD my mael.
Good points all. Heading to jita in the freighter to pick a mach up. |

Jason McCoy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.21 02:38:00 -
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Cormallin wrote:Picked up a Vargur few days ago and havent looked back, less dps than a Mach but more tank and less problems with tracking its also alot more forgiving. ya ima just pick up a vargur anyway, all these shinys errwhere.  |

Jason McCoy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.21 02:41:00 -
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Cormallin wrote:Picked up a Vargur few days ago and havent looked back, less dps than a Mach but more tank and less problems with tracking its also alot more forgiving. care to share your fit? |

Jason McCoy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.05 00:10:00 -
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So I picked up the varg and damn! This thing is beast. The mach is a monster, but I honestly think the varg is better at what im doing, which is lvl 4 isk grinding. The vargur is damaged rigged while the mach has one damage rig and two tank rigs.
Both are sicksauce, but the varg IMO is hitting harder I two volley cruisers, while in the mach it was taking me three in most of the times.
Another advantage to the varg is the ammo consumption, is a lot lower compared to the mach, which in the long run will save you iskies.
Both ships are fun as hell to fly, and its nice to have such choices.
You cant go wrong with either one, but as of right now im inclined more towards the vargur. Also forgot to mention, the varg requires a lot less micromanagement. The tank is off the chain as well. I got full agro doing stop the thief and my shield did not drop below 95% (properly tank and boosting) and the rats were popping left and right. |

Jason McCoy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.05 02:21:00 -
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Cindy Marco wrote:I have flown both, and I prefer the Varg. They both perform roughly the same. I make more isk with the Varg. And that is before considering ammo costs, which add up very fast. I only use faction ammo, which once again makes the Varg the winner.
Vargur has more tank, Mach has more speed. The damage is pretty much the same (10.7 effective guns on a Varg, 10.9 on a Mach, remember that rof bonus > damage bonus) A Varg with 4 slot T2 tank can take any level 4, leaving you with 2 utility slots. If you go faction you can tank any mission with 3 slots. I always take a prop mod, and then a sensor booster, tracking comp, ECCM, or cap booster depending on mission.
However the Vargur can salvage as you run missions. Blitz your missions, and loot salvage BS only. Your missions take the same time as they would without looting, but you get the majority of the value. fuk yes varg is a monster for pve
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